While speaking with Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams (D), “Fox News Sunday” host Martha MacCallum pressed her about protecting the “lives and safety” of unborn children.
At the start of the segment, MacCallum played a clip of Virginia Lt. Gov. Winsome Sears (R) arguing that 46% of the more than 15,000 abortions performed in 2019 involved a black patient, and arguing that abortion has led to the black community losing “so many black lives that matter.”
“Do you think she has a point in terms of losing so many black lives that matter?” MacCallum asked. “I’ve heard that sentiment from other people as well.”
“I think that’s a very specious argument that’s used to cloak what I think is a very deeply disturbing approach to this conversation,” Abrams responded. “In fact, in my tenure in the legislature, I beat back a bill that was designed to deny access to this medical decision using race as a divisive tactic, and I reject that.”
The Democrat candidate went on to add that black women in Georgia suffer from the highest maternal mortality rate, as they are three times more likely to die than white women, while also bringing up studies that suggest that black women are the most underserved by their medical providers. According to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the maternal mortality rate for black women was 55.3 deaths per 100,000 births, which is approximately 2.9 times higher than the rate among white women in the United States.
Abrams also argued that Sears and other lawmakers need to address all “racial dimensions,” which she claimed include black women having the least access to Medicaid and other forms of healthcare, as well as supposedly being underpaid.
“We cannot cherry-pick when we decide to pay attention to the lives and safety of women, and that is the deepest challenge that we face here in Georgia,” she claimed.
“But what about the lives and safety of the child?” MacCallum pressed, pointing out that Abrams still had not actually answered the question.
Abrams once again dodged the question, replying that Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp (R), who previously defeated her in the 2018 gubernatorial race, has “refused” to expand Medicaid and support women at “every stage of their lives.” The Democrat candidate also asserted that, if lawmakers cared about the well-being of women, then they need to care in every single circumstance.
Unfortunately for Abrams, MacCallum wasn’t going to let her get away with avoiding the question again, instead pushing the issue even further, pointing out that the Democrat advocates for the lives of all women except those in the womb.
“I understand, but I asked you if you believe in it all the way up to nine months. You’re talking about caring about the lives of women, I’m just asking at what point do you start to care about the life of that baby — of that baby girl in some cases,” the Fox News host pressed.
Finally answering the question, Abrams responded with the typical left-wing talking point that abortion is a difficult ‘medical decision’ that should be made by a woman and her doctor, claiming that lawmakers should not have any say in the matter because it is “not a political issue.”
MacCallum responded to Abrams’ comments, saying that she gathered from her statement that Abrams supports abortion up to the final month of pregnancy.
“That is not what I said, I said this is a medical decision,” Abrams attempted to push back, though she never actually denied the claim. “And the medical decisions that have to be made have to be made in context. This is a specious approach to try to denude the entire argument. And the reality is, abortion and reproductive care is personal and it is singular and it should be made between a woman and her doctor. I do not have either the experience or the capacity to know what is happening with others.”