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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-IllegalHairAppointment) appeared on Sunday’s 60 Minutes to discuss a wide range of topics with Lesley Stahl, most of which had to do with painting Donald Trump as an insurrectionist and Republicans as his accomplishments. After giving Stahl a breathless, faux-emotional tour of the damage her office sustained (Pelosi was more upset about a broken mirror in her office than she was about thousands of businesses destroyed during months of BLM rioting), the two sat down to chat.
While Pelosi did her best to seem like the reasonable leader protecting the Republic from crazed animals, Stahl pushed back on some of Pelosi’s assertions – to Pelosi’s chagrin. One such topic was whether Pelosi’s tone and “obstruction” cost the Democrats seats in November. Pelosi laughably claimed that characterizations of her as someone who won’t compromise aren’t true and a “tactic” used by Republicans. Stahl then asked about the COVID relief bill, which was held up for eight months by Pelosi (she is the Speaker, after all). Pelosi first said that it was the Republicans’ obstruction, but then admitted that she held it up but that it wasn’t obstruction, because “there was no respect for our heroes,” and that “nobody expects me to support something that solidifies injustice in our country.”
Pelosi then claimed that she’d never heard a member of her caucus say that the Democrats “looked like obstructionists” when discussing the tactical mistakes that led to their shellacking in November. Given Pelosi’s ability to lie with a straight face, it’s impossible to tell if she truly doesn’t remember (she is 80 years old, after all) or whether she’s just denying reality.
Lesley Stahl: In the election in November– someone said that the mandate that the Democrats won was not about issues, because you lost so many seats. That the mandate was for tone and attitude. And– a strong desire for compromise.
Nancy Pelosi: I do know that it was a mandate for us to go forward with an agenda for America’s working families– as well as to do so in tone. We have– I always say to our members, we have a responsibility to find common ground. When we can’t, we must stand our ground, but we have to– we have a responsibility to try.
Lesley Stahl: You yourself are not known as a person who compromises.
Nancy Pelosi: No, I am. I’ll compromise. We wanna get the job done. I’m not– I’m– mischaracterized by the Republicans that way. But that’s a tactic that they use. But we know we want results for the American people.
Lesley Stahl: What about the COVID relief package?
Nancy Pelosi: Yeah.
Lesley Stahl: That was held up for eight months.
Nancy Pelosi: Right. But that was their obs– obstruction. Understand this —
Lesley Stahl: Well, wait. Y–
Nancy Pelosi: –was their obstruction.
Lesley Stahl: Yours too.
Nancy Pelosi: Their obstruction.
Lesley Stahl: No, yours too. Takes two to–
Nancy Pelosi: No, it wasn’t obstruction.
Lesley Stahl: You held out for eight months.
Nancy Pelosi: No, no. We held it up because there was no– no respect for our heroes, our– our state and local health care workers, police and fire, our first responders, our sanitation, transportation, food workers, our teachers, our teachers, our teachers. They would not go down that path.
Lesley Stahl: There’s a member of your caucus who said specifically that, “We look like obstructionists, and it was a mistake.”
Nancy Pelosi: I don’t remember anybody saying that. And—
Lesley Stahl: But–
Nancy Pelosi: –they may have. And they may have. But it isn’t– it wasn’t a mistake. And I would not, and nobody expects me to, to support something that solidifies injustice in our country.
Well, there you have it. Nancy Pelosi in a nutshell.